{"id":373,"date":"2004-08-25T08:17:12","date_gmt":"2004-08-25T08:17:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.hypersync.net\/wordpress\/?p=373"},"modified":"2004-08-25T08:17:12","modified_gmt":"2004-08-25T08:17:12","slug":"this_is_the_problem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.hypersync.net\/wordpress\/?p=373","title":{"rendered":"This is the problem"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I read this article today posted on the House of Deputies\/Bishops listserv post by <a href=\"http:\/\/titusonenine.classicalanglican.net\/index.php?p=2159#comments\" target=\"_blank\">Kendal Harman<\/a>.<br \/>\nHonestly, I agree with many of his points &#8211; I experience very similar things at General when I talk with many here concerning more traditional understanding of theology, scripture, et cetera.  I am told that I am known as the &#8220;Evangelical&#8221; among my classmates.  Generally speaking, they are right, although I am continually drawn to High-Church and non-reactionary Anglo-Catholic piety and worship.  After all, my field-placement parish is a &#8220;non-fussy, Anglo-Catholic&#8221; parish, and I love it.  I am \u00c2\u201cEvangelical,\u00c2\u201d now (unlike before I became an Episcopalian) in the tradition of Anglican-Evangelicalism, not American-Evangelicalism, which has infiltrated Anglican-Evangelicals in this country and which now motivates those challenging and separating from the Episcopal Church USA.<br \/>\nThe difference I have with the writer of the article is his understanding that there can only be one legitimate understanding from Scripture of the issue of homosexuality.  In this way, the &#8220;traditionalists&#8221; are not comprehending those who believe that Scripture taken as a whole does not condemn life-long, monogamous, same-sex relationships.  There is no comprehension on their part that anyone can have an alternative interpretation of Scripture and still have a high-view of Scripture and still align themselves with Scripture.<br \/>\nThe author is right &#8211; liberals do not honestly comprehend the &#8220;traditionalists.&#8221;  Likewise, &#8220;traditionalists&#8221; do not honestly comprehend how there can be any legitimate interpretation of Scripture concerning homosexuality other than their own.  The author&#8217;s point is applicable to both sides.<br \/>\nHere is the article:<br \/>\n<em><br \/>\nDate: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:58:10 -0400<br \/>\nTo: &#8220;bishopsdeputies&#8221;<br \/>\nFrom: &#8220;kendall harmon&#8221;<br \/>\nSubject: [HoB\/D]<br \/>\nAs one deeply opposed to the consecration of V. Gene Robinson, I find a<br \/>\ndisturbing response from those on the other side. They cannot fathom the<br \/>\nposition of those of us opposed.<br \/>\nI listen to how they explain why we feel the way we do, and I find they<br \/>\nsimply don&#8217;t get it. They misread, misinterpret, and misunderstand those who<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t agree with them. I do not think this is mischievous or intentional on<br \/>\ntheir part. I simply think they cannot comprehend our reasons.<br \/>\nSadly, this leaves them entirely unprepared and surprised by the unfolding<br \/>\nevents. I find this alarming for their own sakes. Their spin on events leads<br \/>\nin the wrong direction, their concept of the division is flawed, their hopes<br \/>\nfor reconciliation are based on fabrication.<br \/>\nLet me try to explain this failure to understand us. I do this not to change<br \/>\nany minds, but to help them see what may be ahead.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<em><br \/>\nWhat is missing is nothing less that a conceptual category of our position.<br \/>\nBecause of that void, they must resort to ideas they think ought to fit.<br \/>\nThey assume we liken the consecration to the U.S. pre-emptive strike in Iraq<br \/>\nor the issue of ordination of women. They explain us as being right-wing,<br \/>\nfundamentalists, literalists, homophobic, reactionary, or Jerry Falwell<br \/>\ntypes. Wrong on all counts.<br \/>\nThe most blatant expos\u00c3\u00a9 of this naivet\u00c3\u00a9 and error which I have experienced<br \/>\nwas listening to the debate in the House of Bishops at the 74th General<br \/>\nConvention at Minneapolis. Bishop after bishop claimed that the opposition<br \/>\nat home would disappear and the negative reactions overseas would never<br \/>\nmaterialize. A recent example was the headline in Episcopal News Service<br \/>\nabout the recent meeting of the bishops in Nairobi. There, about 20<br \/>\nconservative bishops asked the Lambeth Commission to give the Episcopal<br \/>\nChurch three months to repent. The headline in ENS was &#8220;Mixed message from<br \/>\nNairobi.&#8221;<br \/>\nLet me give an analogy. Let&#8217;s say that I see a mad elephant coming to our<br \/>\ncamp. I cry out a warning. Unfortunately, no one else in the camp has ever<br \/>\nseen an elephant. Instead, they make the assumption that an elephant must be<br \/>\na skunk, so the severity of the warning is not taken up. Those in the camp<br \/>\nreached wrong conclusions with dreaded consequences. Preparing for the<br \/>\nstench of a skunk is a lot easier than for the devastation of a mad<br \/>\nelephant &#8211; but misguided thinking doesn&#8217;t stop the oncoming elephant.<br \/>\nWhat is the elephant and what is the missing concept? This is easier to see<br \/>\nif we look through others&#8217; eyes. Let me give two examples, the first a<br \/>\nfrequently heard statement from overseas leaders: &#8220;You gave us the Bible and<br \/>\nthat has brought the truth and power and love of Jesus Christ to us. But now<br \/>\nyou have abandoned the Bible you gave us.&#8221;<br \/>\nThe other comes from the underground church of China and tells of the<br \/>\nsacrifice taken for God&#8217;s word. Four pastors were arrested and the<br \/>\ncongregation&#8217;s Bibles confiscated. The authorities brought them out to a<br \/>\npublic place with many from the congregation present. The Bibles were on a<br \/>\ntable, where there were also four bowls of offal &#8211; disgusting and debasing<br \/>\nthings in a gruel. The authorities said to the pastors that the Bibles would<br \/>\nbe returned to the congregation if the pastors would risk their lives and<br \/>\ndrink what was in the bowls. With little hesitation all four pastors stepped<br \/>\nforward and drank. Then they said, &#8220;Now return the Bibles to the<br \/>\ncongregation.&#8221;<br \/>\nCan we see what is missing in the ethos of the Episcopal Church today? We as<br \/>\na whole have a void when it comes to living with the Bible as the infallible<br \/>\nauthoritative word of God, full of love and truth, judgment and direction.<br \/>\nFor the most part that is simply absent. Moreover, that kind of statement<br \/>\nmakes many very nervous.<br \/>\nHow did this happen? In my seminary classes some of my teachers presented<br \/>\nthe Bible in a way that deliberately undermined its authority and its<br \/>\nintended sense. For many the beginning point was the need to make the Bible&#8217;<br \/>\ns message palatable to the current culture. Our challenge was to wheedle and<br \/>\nadjust to get it in line with The Washington Post.<br \/>\nThe story that best captures this attitude is when David brought the ark<br \/>\ninto Jerusalem. At one point the bullocks pulled the cart over a rock and<br \/>\nthe ark started to fall. The priest Uzza stuck out his hand to steady it and<br \/>\nwas rebuked and struck down for thinking that God&#8217;s ark needed the steadying<br \/>\nhand of a mortal.<br \/>\nThis issue undergirds all others. On several occasions I have said that<br \/>\nwhatever is wrong on the issues of sexuality is not as wrong as the Church<br \/>\nleaving 1.5 billion people in today&#8217;s world unreached, without the knowledge<br \/>\nof Jesus Christ. I still believe that.<br \/>\nWhat separates the Church on the issue of V. Gene Robinson&#8217;s consecration is<br \/>\nscripture. We who are opposed to what took place in New Hampshire do not<br \/>\nbelieve that new information has surfaced in the 21st century that<br \/>\ncontradicts God&#8217;s revelation. We do believe that a careful and regular<br \/>\nreading of the Bible brings God&#8217;s power and his wise direction. To inwardly<br \/>\ndigest his word brings grace for sinful people and correction for our<br \/>\nculture &#8211; as it has for all people, all cultures, and all times.<br \/>\nIf the other side really wants to know where we are coming from, start here.<br \/>\nListen to us &#8211; and then you can see what is coming.<br \/>\nThen you can understand why two dozen primates would break communion with uson this issue, why the Anglican Communion Network of Parishes and Dioceses<br \/>\ncontinues to draw leaders and allegiance, why biblically minded<br \/>\ncongregations are willing to walk away from their properties, why faithful<br \/>\nmembers refuse to let their money fund another gospel.<br \/>\nYes, this issue is alarming and serious. All the more so if the other side<br \/>\ndoes not understand us.?<br \/>\n-The Rev. Tad de Bordenave is director of Anglican Frontier Missions. He<br \/>\nlives in Richmond, Va. This article appeared in the August 29, 2004 The<br \/>\nLiving Church magazine, pages 13-14; readers are reminded that &#8220;The Reader&#8217;s<br \/>\nViewpoint&#8221; article does not necessarily represent the editorial opinion of<br \/>\nThe Living Church or its board of directors.<br \/>\nPosted but not written by<br \/>\nDr. Kendall Harmon<br \/>\nSouth Carolina<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I read this article today posted on the House of Deputies\/Bishops listserv post by Kendal Harman. 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